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Max Output II Drop in style Beehive Valve Spring Kit for Ford 351 Cleveland w/ Hyd Roller, Vsk8M20-Q5B

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Beehive Spring Kit for 351 Cleveland

Max Output II Beehive Spring Kit, 351C  w/ Hyd Roller & Single Groove Valves

Fitment: Ford 351 Cleveland

Processing Time: Current processing time is estimated to be around 30 days. This means your order will ship around 30 days after being placed.

 

Here is the long awaited Max Output II Beehive Spring kit for 351 Cleveland with Hyd Roller.

With their 1.72/1.73 ratio rockers, Cleveland engines produce allot of lift, even with mild cam profiles.

We offer this kit for Hyd Roller Cam 351 Cleveland engines running single groove valves.

Good up to .600", these beehives fit right onto the stepped spring base Ford used on so many Cleveland engines.

Spring seat machining is not required. This is a big deal as no other supplier has developed this type of beehive spring for Cleveland's.

Since this kit is designed to be used with single groove valves, they won't work with stock multi groove valves. 

Proud to say, these are an Alex's Parts exclusive- made up to our specifications.

    

  Check out the features:

  • Manufactured using Multi Arc Ovate Wire
  • Made in the USA
  • Seat Pressure: 135 Lbs for Hyd Roller Cams
  • Available Lift Range: .600"
  • Parts included: Small OD Beehive Retainers, Our Custom Beehive Springs and Hardened 7 Degree Locks
  • Fits 351 Cleveland w/ single groove valves (will not fit stock multi groove valves)
  • Spring seat machining is not necessary, the spring fits OE iron heads w/ a stepped spring base
  • If desired, they can be used with umbrella seals. They fit inside these springs without a problem.

    

       Add-On Options:

  • Premium Viton Umbrella Seals (Our premium viton valve seals are the finest available anywhere. Why settle for lower grade gasket company seals?)
  • Premium Positive Viton Valve Seals. (Guide Machining required; guides must be machined to .500")
  • Hardened Spring Shim Pack, Includes: 16 each of: .030" and .015" shims

 

        Average Load Specifications:

  • Seat Load: 135 Lbs @ 1.785" (Valve Closed) See *Note 1 below
  • Open Load @ .500" Lift- 322 Lbs
  • Open Load @ .525" Lift- 332 Lbs
  • Open Load @ .550" Lift- 342 Lbs
  • Open Load @ .575" Lift- 352 Lbs
  • Open Load @ .600" Lift- 362 Lbs

 

      Size and Other Specifications:

  • Small End ID- .651"
  • Small End OD- 1.095"
  • Large End ID- 1.000"
  • Large End OD- 1.450"
  • Solid Height- 1.086"
  • Spring Rate: 372#
  • .600" Lift Range (plus a .060" minimum safety margin before solid height)

 

Can be used with a wide range of hyd roller cam profiles from Mild to Hot. If you want to verify compatibility, feel free to use the contact us link and forward the lift and duration @ .050" figures or simply send us the brand and part number so we'll look it up. Let us know how you plan to run the engine and if it has boost. (daily driver/cruiser, street/strip use, turbo, supercharger, spirited hot street tire burner, circle track, etc.)

 

Our customers know we're very serious about spring kits. Our quality can be compared to parts selling for well over twice the price. When you order from us, you're getting the best value possible.We're not fast but we offer excellent quality and a reasonable rate.

 

Custom built to order w/ 30 day lead time.

 

*Note 1- The seat load installed height spec shown in this listing is for reference only. Please use the installed height specification included with your spring kit. We recommend keeping the installed height spec card for future reference.

 

 

 

        Questions & Answers:

  • Q- How important is it to measure valve spring installed heights?
  • A- Setting up installed heights is important for the following reasons:
  1. Measuring installed heights will assure the intended seat and open loads are achieved.
  2. Builders who want maximum performance will always measure their installed heights and add shims as needed to get the installed heights as close as possible to the target spec card included.

 

  • Q- How close do I need to get the installed heights to the target height spec?
  • A- As close as you can with a tolerance of minus .010" to +.005" of the target height. In order to improve installed height accuracy and if it's possible, it's wise to set it up between .005"-.008" on the low side of the target height. Once the engine is run, the locks will seat further into the retainer. This is a natural process, 7 degree hardware will wedge tight together and as this happens, the installed height will increase a very small amount so it's better to lean towards the lower side of target height.

 

  • Q- Will I need an installed height micrometer to set up the installed heights?
  • A- Yes, in order to properly set up installed heights, a height micrometer suited for beehive springs will be required. It must also be capable of clearing Ford's stepped spring base. The mic must contact the same surface as the spring.

 

  • Q- We have a beehive installed height mic which we used on another application- will it work on my Cleveland heads?
  • A- That depends on the brand and model of the mic. Some height mics are designed for beehive springs and LS Chevy heads or for aftermarket heads with a large flat spring base. Mics for such applications will not clear the raised "step" on 351C heads.

 

  • Q- How can I determine if the beehive mic we have will work on a Cleveland?
  • A- Just measure the opening (bore) on the bottom of the mic. If the inside diameter measures 1.025" or larger, it should work.

 

  • Q- Can I measure the installed heights with a machinist scale, snap gauges or calipers?
  • A- Doing so is not recommended for the following reasons.
    Calipers, snap gauges or a machinist scale will only work when the measurement is taken parallel to the valve stem and not at an angle. Since the heads stepped spring base is larger than the retainer, these tools will not produce accurate measurements.

 

  • Q- My existing installed height micrometer has a stepped top surface which the beehive retainer enters into and contacts the bottom of the step below. The readings I'm getting are .150"+ more than my target installed height. Whats going on and how do I deal with this?
  • A- This condition happens when an installed height mic designed for larger diameter retainers is used with a beehive set up. On common "cylindrical spring" installed height mic's, the shape of the top of the mic is intended to clear the first step of the retainer. Most beehive retainers are too small for Std installed height mic's and will fall into the counter bore which  will produce an inaccurate measurement.

 

  • Q- How do I determine if the top side of my mic will work with a these beehive retainers?
  • A- Just measure the inside diameter of the topside of the mic and compare it to the OD of the retainer. The retainer must sit on the top surface of the mic and not inside its counterbore.

 

  • Q- Do I need hardened shims?
  • A- Yes. Std shims are soft and will break down during use. Std shims should not be used because as they wear down and deposit fine metallic particulate in the crankcase oil.

 

  • Q- Do you offer an installed height mic which will work with your beehive spring kits?
  • A- Yes, we offer a universal installed height mic which works with both, beehive and std cylindrical spring arrangements.

 

  • Q- I've been searching the net for installed height mics, I see mics for beehive and mics for std springs but I don't see any which work on both. How is it that AP can offer a universal mic which is not available anywhere else?
  • A- Well, because we developed the universal design ourselves back in 2006. It started because we didn't see any reason to have to purchase two mic's when all one needed was a removable steel insert to fit into a std mic. The insert is added when working with beehive retainers or removed when working with larger diameter retainers. It seemed like a no brainer so we did it.

 

  • Q- Can I order an insert for my existing Std mic?
  • A- Probably but you would need to provide an accurate depth measurement of your particular mic. When we make the insert, it is custom fitted to the specific mic we're working on. Depth measurements are taken using an dial indicator on a granite block which helps us produce an accurate fit.

 

 

 

 

 


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